minutes. who are the few who jumped out at you? >> i'm a little nierdy, so i picked michael bennet, the colorado senator, because he's the head of the committee which means he's tasked with trying to again keep a democratic senate majority, going to be difficult. you have 20 democratic seats up, only 10 republican seats up. >> and he wants to be senate majority leader some day. >> they asked him two years ago. he said no. he said yes this time. >> you also said pence. why pence? >> he spent time in congress. he's now the governor of indiana. i think he's a guy who we underrate in terms of his influence. we have seen in places like ohio, florida, wisconsin, how governors, particularly republican governors, can have real influence on the conversation. pence is a conservative who is a believer and he's going to push an agenda that will sort of outline 2013. >> all right, perry, you picked two governors. >> jerry brown really important. first time ever since 1933, california has two majority, meaning two thirds of the house and senate are democrat. jerry brown and the democrats can do
